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Finally boxers can be ranked based on objective, factual evidence, not mere opinions. Gray has identified 29 quantitative measures of career success, going far beyond the usual standards of wins, losses and knockouts. See who really is the greatest, who has been underrated, and who has been overrated. Consider the evidence for yourself. "There is just one problem with all the "Greatest Boxers" books published up until now. Boxers have been included in these books because they are famous, and they are famous because they are included in all the "Greatest Boxer" books. -- John Benson Author’s Note
The purpose of this book is to provide a comprehensive, objective ranking of boxers that have held titles in boxing’s modern era (1882-2000). I analyzed more than 700 champions, with the Top 100 making the cut for the book. Actually, you will find 123 champions that are covered in the book. The additional 23 are included because they are famous champions and many of them have appeared in top 100 rankings done by other boxing writers. Fame does not guarantee any boxer a top ranking, not in this book anyway, so your favorites might not be where you are used to seeing them. What this book will tell you is why the champions belong in the Top 100. -- Bill Gray Using an objective analytical model, I confirm or refute long held historical positions about many famous champions as well as uncover some high ranking albeit little known champions from all parts of the world. In studying the work of others that have written about and ranked great fighters, I noticed that most offered a disclaimer that their rankings were based on their opinions. I found it interesting that most authors supported their top ranking boxers with clear statistical evidence and then added anecdotal support. As they moved lower in their lists, most reviews became increasingly and sometimes totally based on opinions. The need to change approach must be due to the author lacking enough hard career data. If every fighter generated the volume of numbers that Ray Robinson did, it would be simple to objectively analyze all fighters; not just the top ten or twenty. I'm not claiming that my objective system is perfect but it is consistent, unbiased, defensible and it makes sense. Additionally, I'm not saying that opinion-based rankings are always wrong. Some of my rankings matched Bert Sugar's in his 1984 and 2006 books. It's just that when our rankings do not match, we range from tacit agreement to not being on the same planet. Most ranking books will feature Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis and Henry Armstrong at the top. All are solid, logical choices because they all have impressive records and there are plenty of facts to support the writer's contention. If the number one choice is Robinson, the author will support his choice by citing Robinson's massive body of work: his welterweight title, 5 middleweight titles, 109 career knockouts, 175 career victories, 25 year career and his long undefeated streaks. Joe Louis' highlights include his 25 title defenses and his 11+ years as heavyweight champion. For Ali, it's 3 heavyweight titles and a 16 year span of championship activity. Armstrong's simultaneous ownership of 3 world titles, 151 career wins and 101 career knockouts are his headlines. If a writer ranked Rocky Marciano near the top, chances are he will attempt to substantiate Marciano's ranking by citing his 43 knockouts in 49 bouts and his unique position as the only undefeated heavyweight champion in history. Judging by the fighters that are nearly always at the top of ranking lists, we accept statistical evidence as a foundation for rankings. Facts are explicit, compelling and tend to end arguments. However while it's relatively simple to rank elite champions with towering achievements, how do we rank the majority of champions that generally fall below the acknowledged greats? Is it even possible to rank the majority in the same objective manner in which we rank Robinson, Armstrong, Louis or Ali? Certailnly it's possible to objectively rank any champion based on his career performance. That's what records are for. A boxer's record is demonstrable, quantifiable proof of his ability as a fighter. What I've attempted to do here is to objectively compare the records of 700 boxing champions dating from 2001 to the 1880s. Few take issue with Ray Robinson being the greatest fighter ever. His statistics jump off the page: Career fights, victories, knockouts, six world titles, longevity, etc. Robinson's basic stats are vivid and strong enough to separate him from the pack. A true student of boxing could read: "202 fights, 175 wins 109 KOs and 6 world titles and know that it's Robinson without seeing his name. Why not measure every champion by using the same objective criteria? I'm sure all authors review a boxer’s basic record of wins, losses, draws, knockouts and title bouts to help form and organize their list, but they soon run into trouble because unlike the greats such as Robinson, does anything jumps off the page when looking at the basic record of and "average" champions? Not so much and that makes it more difficult to accurately rank them. In my study of 700 champions, I found 115 champions that had at least 100 career bouts, 120 champions that had between 70 to 99 career fights, 217 champions that fought 50 to 69 career fights and 248 champions that fought less than 50 times. The number of fights in a career can be used to rank as many boxers as you care to but that one category isn't sufficient to define career performance. Activity is an important and measurable component to consider, but again it's just one category. The champion with the greatest number of fights to a decision is Maxie Rosenbloom with 274, and the champion with the least number of career bouts is bantamweight champion, Byun Jung-Il, who boxed only 12 times. While Rosenbloom had the greatest number of fights, he is not the highest ranking champion, nor is Byun the lowest ranking champion. To determine their real positions, many aspects of a boxer's career must be taken into account and compared with the other champions before we can get a clear picture that will make it possible to rank them all based on results. In order to sensibly rank champions, especially those with modest records, it's vital to develop a workable statistical model using many performance categories that enable us to measure the quality of every champion's career. That was my target and I did this in order to to create a level playing field. Secondly, I decided to move beyond the age old use of opinion-based rankings that, year after year, protect the legacy of legends by virtually deifying them and exempting them from further scrutiny. As a result, the position of old time fighters often remains fixed at levels established perhaps a century ago. There appears to be an unwritten rule among boxing historians that forbids the reevaluation of legendary fighters. Obviously, I disagree which is why I developed my system by using 29 categories of career performance. This system has yielded facts that have never been available before. You may not agree with my findings and if not I'd appreciate it if you'd drop me a line and tell me why you disagree and what you propose to improve what I hope will be an ongoing project. Boxing author and columnist Thomas Hauser reviewed my book after it came out. Given the turn around time beginning with his request for a review copy and when his review was published I doubt that he had time to read enough of it. It appeared that he looked it over to see where the famous names were and if something didn't fit with his preconcieved notions, he was ready to rip. He said that he didn't agree with me beyond my first few picks. In fact, he picked at some rankings and summed it up by calling my ranking system "idiocy." I don't mind criticism but I'm disappointed that he felt so strongly that I was wrong but he never offered his rationale or attempted to prove why I was wrong, nor did he suggest a way to improve. Sadly and typicallly, Hauser just offered his opinion that I am an idiot and he suggested that ranking fighters is an art rather than a science. I disagree. Writing about great fighters can be art if it's done well but subjectively ranking fighters is nothing more than an appreciation. To Hauser and other devotees of the subjective method of ranking boxers, objectivity is the enemy. For the record, Mr. Hauser used the word IDIOCY in his column but he later apologized to me for his "intemperate" remark -- by private email which I appreciate. Still, Hauser made no attempt to support his beliefs with facts and that is the inherent weakness of any practitioner of subjective rankings. He concluded with: "Give me good old subjective analysis." Well, there's plenty of that. The practice of subjective analysis is certainly old, rarely good and pretty much the same from book to book. If that's what he wants, he's welcome to all of it. If one wishes to be entertained rather than informed, these books are fine reads but how much more Homeric musing about Jack Johnson, Benny Leonard and Joe Louis can we take? Haven't the bones of these great old fighters been picked clean by now? Mr. Hauser may be wary of sailing off the edge of the earth; he may prefer to remain in familiar waters and blissfully move about in a narrow area, but touting the need for more "good old subjective analysis" in ranking boxers adds nothing to our knowledge. If he thinks I'm wrong, I challenge him to make his case. I want to learn new things about boxers and I assume Hauser does as well. What can we learn by maintaining status quo and by defending untested positions that were first voiced decades ago? Mr.Hauser, don't just say I'm wrong about Benny Leonard and others. Dig in and do some work. Test your opinions and test my system. Try using good old facts to prove your point. My proof? Over a ten year period, I compiled the records of 700 champions and analyzed their performance in 29 categories. I discovered the "average" boxing champion's career record is 57 bouts, 44 wins, 26 knockouts and about 3 years of activity in championship bouts. 57, 44, 26 and 3 is roughly 25 percent of Sugar Ray Robinson's career of 202 bouts, 175 wins, 109 knockouts and nearly 15 years of championship activity. Obviously, the average champion in a field of 700 is nowhere close to Ray Robinson's level of performance but it is still possible to separate the jumble of tightly-packed mid-level champions by digging for more information that will break a logjam. By detecting just one subtle difference, a champion with exactly 57 bouts, 44 wins, 26 knockouts, but one additional year of championship activity - even if it's just one title bout - will rank slightly higher than another with a similar basic record. When all 29 categories are added to the mix, I am able to refine the results and quantify career performance. A basic W-L-D-KO analysis provides a thumbnail sketch of what boxers accomplished but by going deeper than a basic analysis the similarities and differences in every champion come to the surface. I can then pinpoint how, where and why one champion outranks another. What else is different here in comparision to opinion-based greatest hundred fighter books is that in the latter, the author usually begins by taking 150-200 well-known fighters and then he tweaks and whittles the large list down until he gets the 100 that he knows and likes (and hopes will make sense to readers). I started with the largest list I could find; 700 fighters that were champions from 1882 to 2000. This may disappoint fans of the so-called uncrowned champions, great fighters best represented by men such as Peter Jackson, Harry Wills, Sam Langford and Charley Burley. These were men that were superb boxers and deserving of a title shot, but they never got one. For whatever the reason, be it the color line, their superior ability or simply poor management, these excellent fighters never got a title shot. While that's unfortunate, only title holders make the cut in this book because winning a title is the primary goal of every serious professional boxer. Those that do become champions are boxing's elite. Mostly, I wanted to avoid creating my own subjective list of great champions and pontificate on who was better. The only way to avoid interjecting myself in the debate is to keep my opinions to myself. Instead, I went all the way back to the beginning of boxing's modern era when John L. Sullivan stated his preference to fight with padded gloves and box three minute rounds. Moving forward decade by decade, I built a database of every champion in every weight division from the 1880s through 2000. Sugar Ray Robinson emerged as the number one ranked champion. On the bottom at number 700 is Jorge Vaca. In the middle at number 350 is 19th century welterweight champion Matty Matthews, who ranks just below 1920s champion Pete Latzo, and just above 1980s champion Robin Reid. All 700 champions were ranked on a 100-point scale. Robinson scored a 97.89, Vaca's score is 34.76. Matty Matthews, the man in the middle, scored 54.03. Only five of the 700 champions scored 90 points or more and Muhammad Ali is not one of them, although he is very close at 89.43 and he did grade out as the number one heavyweight of all time. That's my method in a nutshell. My rankings are entirely based on career results and my ranking positions are settled by as little as one one-hundredth (.001) of a point. Generally, you won't find more than two points separating any grouping of five fighters. Another difference is that some authors that subjectively rank may emphasize intangibles such as power and toughness to justify a fighter's rank. Those that appreciate scientific boxing skill, quickness and guile may elevate master boxers. Still, regardless of style -- power puncher or slick boxer -- the objective for all fighters is to win the fight. How he wins is far less important than how often he won. In Ray Robinson, we had a man who is acknowledged as the finest example of a fighter with every asset -- power, speed, grace, determination, intelligence and toughness. If we had never seen Robinson in action, what could we tell about him if we simply reviewed his record? He must have been tough because he was stopped only once in 202 fights. He certainly had power because he knocked out 109 opponents, which is the second highest number of knockouts among all champions. Can a knockout artist also have superior boxing skills? 84 of Robinson's fights went the distance and he was awarded the decision in 66. How about guile and determination? Robinson lasted for 25 years; only 20 champions have fought that long, or longer. Ray Robinson had all the tools, but what made Robinson our greatest fighter is that he combined his abilty with with a great desire to win. That is what made Robinson more productive over a longer span of time than any champion in history. This is not an opinion it is a fact. An oft-reported assessment of Robinson is that he could knock out sluggers and out-box boxers. One look at Robinson's record tells us exactly that. Still, having great tools does not necessarily mean a fighter is a great fighter; only that he has the capacity to be great. Robinson proved his greatness by winning many fights and by being productive for many years. While Robinson won and endured, there are many highly-skilled fighters that impress us but suddenly flame out and fade away. Here we get into the murky area of ranking by career value versus peak value. When writers consider fighters whose records do not quite jump off the page, they may have no recourse but to offer their opinion based on a slice of time that they believe a fighter was at his peak. This approach tends to keep famous old time fighters such as Benny Leonard forever fixed in boxing's upper echelon and subjective analysis offers the famous a lifetime pass into future top 100 rankings because someone that attempted to subjectively rank boxers would have to be an idiot to not place Benny Leonard high on his list. Why? Because just about every expert in the twentieth century says that near the top is where Leonard belongs. Well, Benny Leonard is not in my top ten. Keep reading and I will tell you why. Throughout my review of these 700 champions, I noticed some unappreciated champions that stood shoulder to shoulder with more famous fighters that have appeared on recent top 100 lists. Now, is it really worth knowing that Mario D'Agata, Rudolfo Gonzalez and Soo Hwan Hong rank within .06 points of each other? Probably not. They are nowhere close to being top 100 champions, but I was surprised when I found that the scores of D'Agata, Gonzalez and Hong were within a half a point of Rocky Graziano, who was included in a recent top 100 list. While Graziano's record grades out here as below average, putting him in a top 100 list suggests the analyst lacks a way to find a better answer. Maybe the analyst sampled too few fighters to begin with. If he set out to create a list of 100 by starting with only 150 or 200, he will exclude at least 500 of the champions that I have included in my study. Graziano was a well-known fighter and a character in and out of the ring. The late Paul Newman starred in 'Somebody Up There Likes Me;' the story of Graziano's life. Only a handful of sports champions have had movies made of their life story but that, of course, has no bearing on how Graziano performed in the ring. After his career was over Graziano became a TV personality and he remained in the public eye for the rest of his life. Films and still photographs of Graziano's second fight with Tony Zale vividly portray a snarling, bleeding and battered Graziano lashing out with his right hand, smashing Zale into submission and leaving Zale dazed and draped over the middle rope. In the face of this graphic imagery what is lost in the mix is the most important fact about Graziano and that is the second fight with Zale was Graziano's one big moment; his only championship victory. Graziano was unsuccessful in his attempt to defend his title in a rematch with Zale and in three of his four title fights Graziano was quickly kayoed every time. Graziano was certainly an exciting fighter to watch but he had a very brief peak: One championship win against three defeats. Graziano's championship peak lasted literally one fight and his championship record of 1-3 is certainly not the stuff of legends or deserving of a top 100 ranking. In terms of peak value, Graziano was unable to defend his title and his reign is measured in months rather than years. He peaked and he fell in less than one year and when he is objectively evaluated against every champion since 1882, Graziano's record is barely enough to make it into my top 400 champions. In terms of career value, Graziano does not show particularly well either. He was 43-6-5 when he got his first title shot against Zale in 1947 and Zale handed him his seventh loss and his first defeat by knockout, plus, he had a relatively short career that ended at age 30. In all Graziano answered the bell 83 times and he was 67-10-6 with 52 knockouts. When Graziano fought competent fighters, he usually lost. I believe that the only reason why others give Graziano a nod as one of boxing's greatest 100 fighters is that his post career celebrity status bucks up a below average career. Graziano is an example of overrating the fireworks display fighters; the big punching 'kill-or-be-killed' street brawlers who excitingly pounded their way to a championship. If we remove Graziano's style and post career celebrity, among the 700 champions I reviewed, my system ranks Graziano at #386 all time and number 39 of the 59 middleweight champions that I rank. Rocky Graziano ranked number 99 in Bert Sugar's latest top 100 list which I feel is wrong and a glaring example of the subjective ranking method going off the tracks. Graziano was a one-trick pony who was one of the ring's true characters and his persona enhanced our perception of his career. His position in Sugar's book comes at the expense of 287 champions that had better career results. It's vital to rank boxer's only on what they achieved in the ring. Nothing more is needed. Life stories are important to know and add color and context but they have no bearing on ranking. It is useful to compare career patterns, such as the age of champions when they turned pro, had their first title bout, won their first and last title bout, fought their last title bout and when they retired. In studying these factors, subtle differences emerge and form what I call the Career Quality of all champions. Breaking down the careers of 700 hundred champions into 29 components brings to light similarities and differences that led me to discover where every champion belongs in an historical ranking. I am not concerned with how a fighter wins or how he looks doing it. I don't care if he had a great chin, a lethat jab, lightning fast hands or inexhaustible stamina. These are simply physical attributes that only contribute to, but do not guarantee success. Floyd Patterson was praised for his fast hands and combination punching but he is better known and often ridiculed for getting knocked down more than any heavyweight champion in history. Sonny Liston, who twice humiliated Patterson in less than one round, was often praised for having a great chin and terrific power. Despite the obvious physical advantages and the head to head dominance Liston had over Patterson, what did each man accomplish over the course of his entire career? The imposing Liston may have had a great chin and terrific power but those assets helped him win only two of four title fights. The smaller, seemingly fragile Patterson won eight title fights, lost five and was the first man in history to regain the heavyweight championship. Who had the better career? Patterson by a wide margin. Like Rocky Graziano, Sonny Liston made an enduring impression on those who saw him but his championship career was a blip. My ranking system is based entirely on career results and the overall result I sought is how well and how long did each champion perform compared to his peers? While I advocate an objective, unbiased ranking system, I admit that there can be drawbacks to objective ranking when too few statistics are used. In a narrow-focus ranking there may be a tendency to zero in on and debate the importance of each ranking category, rather than to focus on the overall results of the fighter. For instance, by winning world titles 6 times, Ray Robinson deserves to be ranked above Henry Armstrong, who held 3 titles. However, in Armstrong's favor, we know that he fought more title bouts and he won more title bouts than Robinson did, so Armstrong has an advantage there. Should we give more weight to titles held, or title fights won? I do not believe that any category should be weighted, so I didn't do that. Individual performance against the average performance of 700 champions within each of the 29 categories is the key. Robinson didn't come out first in every category, but he finished at or near the top enough to come out on top of the pack. Armstrong had a better ratio of wins by knockout for his career than Robinson, but Robinson won more fights and his championship career was much longer, spanning from 1946 to 1961, while Armstrong's lasted from 1937 to 1941. What it boils down to is that over the 29 categories, Robinson outperformed Armstrong across the board more often than Armstrong bettered Robinson. If we can avoid trying to quantify the importance of one category over another, we can properly focus on the fighters results and that evidence will show exactly where champions rank in every category; be it titles held, titles won, career knockouts, length of career, and 25 more. To accomplish this, the task is to generate meaningful points of comparison that enable us to compare and rank fighters based on a wide array of statistics, rather than a few. By developing 29 ways to measure champions and by using 700 champions rather than hand picking 150 or 200, I feel that I have hit my target. Why do I use 29 categories to rank fighters? Anybody can offer an opinion and back their call with a few selected facts. If somebody believes that Ray Leonard was a better fighter than Sugar Ray Robinson, and if their assessment is backed with selected statistics where Leonard has an advantage over Robinson, then the argument for Leonard is defensible. However, if we analyze each fighter in 29 categories Robinson's superiority across the entire range is clear and a fine champion such as Leonard will fall in well below Robinson. Many of the categories that I use rarely (if ever) have been taken into account when analyzing and ranking boxers. If we examine career longevity and activity, we'll see that Sugar Ray Robinson had 202 bouts in his career while Ray Leonard had 40 professional fights. Comparing them side by side in that single category gives Robinson a significant edge, but as compelling as their head to head comparison may be, I can also detect where Robinson and Leonard rank against the entire pool of 700 champions. The key factor here is that by using a base of 700 champions I can tell you that 533 champions had more fights in their career than Ray Leonard had, but only 6 champions had more career fights than Ray Robinson. What that tells us is Robinson not only took on more risk than Leonard did, he accepted more risk than almost every champion in history -- and he produced. Robinson deserves credit for that and my system ensures that he (and every other champion) receives credit for what they achieved. When all 29 factors are considered, Robinson's superiority over Leonard -- and every fighter – is quantifiable and compelling. Here are the 29 performance categories that I created to measure and rank 700 champions, and Sugar Ray Robinson's performance compared to category averages. SRR vs. Average Champion 1. Age at beginning of career: 19 19 2. Age at end of career: 44 33 3. Length (years) of career: 25 13 4. Age at time of first title bout win: 25 25 5. Age at time of last title bout win: 38 27 6. Age at time of last championship fight. 40 29 7. Total number of years a fighter held a title. 12 2 8. Number of years a fighter engaged in championship fights. 15 3 9. Number of title bouts won: ------------------------------ 14 3 10. Number of title bouts fought: -------------------------- 22 5 11. Average number of title fights per year: -------------- 1.2 1.5 12. Percentage of career that the fighter was a champion: -- 52 14 13. Bouts to a decision. (excludes no decision bouts): ---- 200 57 14. Career wins by decision: ------------------------------- 66 18 15. Career losses by decision: ----------------------------- 18 14 16. Career wins by knockout: ------------------------------ 109 26 17. Percentage of total wins by knockout: ------------------ 55 46 18. Percentage of total losses by knockout: ---------------- 5 33 19. Career won-lost percentage: ---------------------------- 88 82 20. Title fights as a percentage of total career bouts: ---- 11 9 21. Won-lost percentage in title bouts: -------------------- 64 60 22. Number of years between first and last title bout win: - 12 2 23. Number of years between first and last title fight: ---- 15 3 24. Percent of career spent as a champion: ----------------- 52 14 25. Number of titles won (includes titles regained): -------- 6 3 26. Losses by knockout: ------------------------------- ----- 1 2 27. Net wins (wins minus losses): --- 156 38 28. Average number of fights per year: ---------------------- 8 4.4 29. Failure to win in a title bout (includes draws): -------- 8 2 Career Quality To analyze the career performance of 700 champions in 29 categories I developed an unbiased ranking system that eliminates the need for opinion. While this is a robust and dependable model I'm not claiming that it's a perfect system. I strongly believe that a fact-based approach is a better way to rank hundreds of boxers than by the use of facts for the top few and opinions for the rest. I wanted to develop as much compelling evidence as possible and have my system produce a consistent ranking by going far deeper than the usual review of wins, losses, knockouts and title fights that serve as the statistical underpinning in other books that rank fighters. I rely on this evidence to provide a more comprehensive view of the careers of champions than ever before.
While some ranking books focus only on a boxer's peak years -- a matter of opinion in itself -- Boxing's Top 100 includes the peak as well as the pre- and post- peak years. In short, I take every boxer's entire career into account. I show the pre-peak, peak and post-peak years and we can draw conclusions as to how champions developed and performed at every stage of their career. In this way I can answer questions such as: Do fighters that win a title at a young age generally stay on top longer than a fighter who wins a title in his late twenties, or older? The most productive periods of a boxer's career are by definition the peak years and in my system I can determine what an average performance peak looks like so boxers with more productive peak years earn more credit in comparison to boxers with an average or below average peak. In compiling career profiles of 700 boxing champions from 1882 to 2000 and breaking down every champion's career into 29 performance categories, I found medians in every category. I then compared every champion's performance - category by category - to overall performance medians and determined how far above or below median every champion stands in each of the 29 categories. I distilled the results in every category into one score that I refer to as Career Quality. Every boxer's ranking is a summation of his performance in 29 individual category. The end result or Career Quality score is a value based on a 1-100 point scale, with 100 being the highest score a boxer can achieve.
Boxing's Top 100 - The Greatest Champions of All Time is more than an just an exercise in number crunching. To begin every champion's profile, I rank him in three ways: 1. Pound For Pound - All Time 2. Pound for Pound in Decade Great Champions Along with individual statistical charts, I researched and wrote about every champion's impact in the ring. Of course, outside factors impact each fighter's performance, but losing to a lesser fighter because a given champion was out of shape, old, sick, tired, blind in one eye, or, in the case of Primo Carnera, having his fights rigged, are not things for which I make adjustments when analyzing a career. The record is what it is and I allow the record to speak for the fighter. Many champions grow old, many champions fight when injured or sick, and Primo Carnera isn't the only champion who had fights rigged in his favor. My method allows us to see how each champion developed, how long he dominated and how quickly he declined. I am not looking for an explanation for why they did well or poorly. I believe my method provides a consistent analytical context and eliminates any historic or cultural bias that often clouds objectivity. The higher-ranked champions tend to fight often; they tend to have long careers and they tend to be resilient and bounce back after they lose a fight. There are exceptions. Henry Armstrong is one of the great champions even though he was a champion for only three years. I found that the average boxing champion held a title for about two years, so Armstrong's three-year reign is just slightly above average in that category. In fact, I found that 245 champions equaled or surpassed Henry Armstrong in number of years as a champion. If we judged Armstrong just on the length of time that he was a champion, he would not rank as a great champion; he'd rank as an average champion. In most opinion-based rankings the author will note that Armstrong was a champion for only three years then buttress that fact by citing his frenetic activity in the pursuit and defense of his titles. They may or may not not know (or care) that at least 245 boxers were champions for as long or longer than Armstrong, but to me that is as worthwhile as knowing how many title fights Armstrong had and how many title fights Armstrong averaged per year. Each of these factors (and more) are accounted for in order to determine Henry Armstrong's Career Quality. Of 700 champions, Armstrong is one of just four to score more than 100 career knockouts. In title fights per year, the average for the 700 champions is just 1.5. per year. Armstrong averaged over 8 title fights a year and in that category he ranks first among the 700 champions surveyed. Plus, he won three world titles and had 151 fights in his career. What I've just said about Armstrong's performance will not surprise any serious boxing fan, but keep in mind that I have discussed only four widely known components of Armstrong's performance. There are 25 more components to consider for Armstrong and you may be surprised by what they reveal. I certainly was, not only for Armstrong, but for many well-known champions. Had I done these rankings based on my opinions, I would rank fighters such as Harry Greb, Jack Dempsey and Benny Leonard much higher because that is what I've been led to believe in my nearly fifty years of studying boxers. I have no doubt that my ranking of this legendary trio of Roaring Twenties champions will be controversial in comparison to opinions and rankings that have been presented over the last eighty years. =================================================================== Case Study: Taking a Longer, Harder Look at Benny Leonard, Harry Greb and "Legendary Champions." According to The Ring Record Book and Encyclopedia, Benny Leonard had 210 fights, but 115 were no-decision bouts, which leaves Leonard with a measurable record of 89-5-1. Greb’s record shows 294 fights, but by backing out his no decision, non-title bouts, Greb's measurable win, lose or draw record is 115-8-3.
Both Leonard and Greb rank highly in their era: Greb is number 2 (of 47 champions ranked in the decade of 1920-1929) and Benny Leonard is number 5 of 27 champions ranked in the decade of 1910-1919.
Leonard seems to be the fighter whose all-time ranking here generates the most controversy in light of the many experts that have written of Leonard as one of the greatest fighters ever. I don't know of another top 100 list that does not include Leonard, and usually within the top 10. Taken in proper context, yes, Benny Leonard was one of the more successful fighters of his time. His time was in the early days of boxing; a time when there were far fewer champions to compare and contrast than we have today. Within this early and smaller group Leonard deserved to be highly ranked. Keep in mind that beginning in 1880, it would take several decades until 100 men won boxing titles, so at one point in boxing history, a top 100 list would have to include every champion. When the number of champions was much smaller than it is today, Benny Leonard was among the elite of that group. As it has been more than eighty years since Leonard retired as champion, we must take the following into consideration when ranking Benny Leonard today:
1. From 1880 to 2000, 130 of 700 champions had more fights to a decision than Leonard had. 2. 159 of 700 champions had more title fights than Leonard had. 3. 72 of 700 champions won more title fights than Leonard won. 4. 52 of 700 champions had more net wins than Leonard. 5. Leonard’s eight years as a champion place him 24th in that category all-time.
We can't rank a great champion of the 1920s and keep him at the same position forever if his record fails to stand up against every champion in history. A newly-retired champion's record is fixed at the point of his retirement and immediately upon retiring he can only be compared and ranked with the champions that fought with and before him. Some champions from boxing's early days have the record to support a high ranking today. Others such as Leonard, stand out in their era but their record doesn't hold up well over the years and they slip. We can't base a champion's ranking on what was said and written about him by contemporary writers and journalists, even though their assessments were honest insights based on evidence at their disposal at the time. When Nat Fleischer founded The Ring Magazine in 1922, Leonard was in his prime and he was often favorably compared with Joe Gans. However, most experts of the time -- including Fleischer -- ranked Gans over Leonard. We must take into account that by 1920, modern championship boxing had existed for only about forty years and compared to today, very few champions had been crowned. Now, factor in the large number of champions that have come after Benny Leonard, who fought his last title bout in 1925. Upon his retirement as lightweight champion over eighty years ago, Benny Leonard was deservedly held in high regard. He was a fine boxer, he was popular and he produced a fine record in comparison to the champions of and before his era. However, don't forget that in this period (1882-1919) there were only 72 champions in boxing history with whom Benny Leonard could be compared. In the 1882-1919 span, my model ranks Benny Leonard 14th of those 72 champions.
The 13 champions that I rank ahead of Leonard from 1882-1919 are highly regarded by boxing historians. Their records tell their story. In this period, even if we resort to subjective argument, one could make a case that at number 14, Leonard is properly ranked. The champions that my system ranks above Leonard are:
Joe Gans Abe Attell Tommy Ryan Jack Britton Jimmy Barry Bob Fitzsimmons George Dixon Johnny Kilbane Tommy Burns Stanley Ketchel John L. Sullivan Jack Johnson Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
Those above Leonard are Hall of Fame champions and at number 14 Leonard ranked in the top twenty percent of all champions who fought in the first 39 years of boxing history. However, even in this relatively small context of 72 champions, Leonard's record is not strong enough to place him at the top, or even in the top ten of a sample that amounts to about one-tenth the size of the (700) champions from 1882-2000.
It was of great interest to me that Nat Fleischer’s 1958 rankings had Joe Gans as his number one lightweight and Benny Leonard was his number two lightweight. Fleischer saw Gans and Leonard in the ring and he was convinced that Gans was the better man.
Fleischer ranked Gans first and Leonard second in his all time lightweight rankings. This is exactly the same result that my model produced when I used a smaller (72) sample of contemporary champions that fought from 1882-1919.
What affects Leonard and all early day fighters is that from 1920 to the present, the number of boxing champions has increased more than ten-fold. 628 fighters analyzed for Boxing's Top 100 became champions after Benny Leonard retired in 1925. If Leonard wasn't the best of 72 champions from 1880-1919, how likely is it that Leonard could be better than each of the 628 champions that have come after him? Consider some of the champions that came after Leonard retired and now outrank him: Muhammad Ali, Roberto Duran, Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Joe Louis, Carlos Monzon, Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Rocky Marciano, Julio Caesar Chavez and Archie Moore. These men are all top 100 fighters now. How will they fare over time? Will they all remain top 100 fighters eighty years after hanging up their gloves? Right now, many of us would say yes to that question -- just as many of Benny Leonard's contemporaries and fans believed eighty years ago that Leonard would remain fixed at or near the top of the list of the best boxers of all time. It's worth noting that when ranked among the 72 champions from 1880-1919, Leonard was in the top 20 percent. When ranked against 700 champions, Leonard, at number 139, is still in the top twenty percent, so let's not get too hung up on the fact that Benny Leonard isn't in my top 100. Keep in mind that I'm using a championship population of 700 boxers, and I've included champions that rarely, if ever have been analyzed or ranked. I believe that the number of boxers that I rank is a larger group than anyone has ever attempted and ranking positions here are settled by as little as .001 of a point. In that context, a champion ranked 139th of 700 is still in a strong historical position and well above average. Just five more points on Leonard's career quality (CQ) score of 63.38 would place him in the my top 100. The value of my system is that while Benny Leonard cannot improve on his record and add more points to his CQ, he and others near him can gain or lose points based on the performance of currently active champions and future champions.
It's important to note that some of the boxers in my top 100 list are still active. Some are in their prime and some are nearing the end of their career. At one point, I thought it would be best to only rank the champions that had retired, but because I ranked fighters in every decade, it was necessary to include active fighters to complete my analysis through the end of the twentieth century. That forced me to do something that I don't like to do and that is to rank champions before their career is over (incomplete information). My ranking of Floyd Mayweather, Jr., is a good example of using peak value to rank a boxer. Right now, after his victory over Oscar De La Hoya in May 2007, and Ricky Hatton in December, Mayweather is considered to be the finest pound for pound fighter in the world. He talked of retiring after his defeat of De La Hoya, but he defended against Hatton and said he would not fight again for a year or two. MAyweathe reventually came back to degfeat Juan MAnuel Maquez in a precursor to meeting MAnny Paquiao in March of 2010, but that fight is now in jeopardy. Even with Mayweather's last victory over Marquez, if he never fights again, his record will not be strong enough to warrant the rank of top pound for pound fighter of all time and he would not rank as the greatest fighter of the 1990s. Mayweather's victory over De La Hoya improved his ranking from 32 in the book to 22. De La Hoya but his long layoff cost him four points and he now comes in at number 26.
Mayweather and lately Pacquiao are widely held as the best fighters in the world but the record book says otherwise. Bernard Hopkins, not Mayweather, holds the honor as the best active pound for pound fighter in the world -- if we consider both men by their records over their entire career, rather than by assuming that Mayweather is better because he is younger and undefeated. Not long ago Hopkins was called the best pound for pound fighter in the world, but he lost a couple of title fights to Jermain Taylor and was nearing age 40, so the media wrote him off and looked for a new man to call the best pound for pound fighter in the world, and ultimately annointed the undefeated Mayweather. Despite suffering two losses at an old age, Hopkins was not finished with boxing. He succesfully moved up to the light heavyweight division in his forties until losing an important fight with with undefeated Joe Calzaghe. That loss seemed to finish Hopkins but at age 43 he met and dominated undefeated middlweight champion Kelly Pavlik in a non title twelve round fight, which was Hopkins' finest effort since his defeat of Felix Trinidad, in 2001. His victory over the 26 year old Pavlik moved Hopkins past Azumah Nelson (83.30) into 12th place all time with an 83.75 CQ score. Like most aging champions, Hopkins lost his title, failed to regain it and talked about retiring, but unlike most aging former champions, he regrouped and came back twice in his forties, first by winning the light heavyweight title and next by following his loss to Calzaghe with his upset of Pavlik. Although no title was at stake, Hopkins' aggressive performance in his near shutout win over Pavlik is among the most impressive comebacks in boxing history. For this age group, only George Foreman regaining the heavyweight title at age 45 with a stunning come from behind KO over Michael Moorer, is comparable.
How long Hopkins can continue to fight well is in question, but if Mayweather quit now, he'd be leaving money on the table, literally and in terms of his all time ranking, because he'd be retiring at a relatively young age of 32 -- below the median retirement age of 33. While we don't want any fighter to fight on past his peak, how a fighter performs as he ages is a significant factor in his all time ranking. Many fighters continue to fight after their peak and some lose. Mayweather may still be at his peak right now, but he hasn't fought nearly enough to compare to Robinson, Duran, Chavez or Ali, or Hopkins who all successfuly competed when they were past their physical prime. On the eve of his bout with Ricky Hatton, Mayweather said, "I am the greatest and this is my time. I'm not disrespecting Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson. I've accomplished something no other fighter has. I've reigned for a decade and lost to nobody." While Mayweather feels that he is the best ever, he hit the nail on the head when he said, "I don't think I will get the credit I deserve until my career is over and I give the sport all I have." After his defeat of Hatton, Mayweather took some time off but he came back in 2009 and beat a capable, but aging lightweight in Juan Manuel Marquez. Now approaching his mid thirties, the road for Mayweather as with any aging fighter, becomes more difficult to successfully navigate. It will be interesting to see how Mayweather manages the remainder of his career. While he feels is already the greatest fighter of all time, he is entering the time in his career when age becomes a risk and the risk / reward factor intensifies. Judging by his performance against Marquez, Mayweather seems to have lost none of magnificent ability but as he moves into his mid thirties, an age that has both humbled and defined the greats like Robinson, Armstrong and Ali; how will Mayweatther respond if he loses? Will he continue fighting and return revved up and refocused like Ali or Ray Robinson, or will he be unable to regain his edge, like Henry Armstrong? Most of the top-ranked champions had long careers and the ability to adjust, compensate and win late in their career. The greats go on and on and they continue to produce. We don't know what Mayweather will do in that regard because he hasn't arrived at that point. Bernard Hopkins has. Hopkins may not be the force he was in his middleweight prime, but he obviously still knows how to win major fights.
Among active fighters, Mayweather (#26) right now ranks below Hopkins (#14) on my all time list, but Mayweather is younger so the perception is that Mayweather is near his his peak while Hopkins has seen better days and should be close to the end of his career. Unless we compare records, how can we prove that one fighter is the best pound for pound fighter in the world while he is still fighting? The only way to accurately assess who is (or was) the best pound for pound fighter of the past ten years is by the career record. Right now Hopkins has had a longer and more productive career than Mayweather. What Mayweather has on his side is youth and media expectations that he will continue to produce at a high level for some time to come. If and when Mayweather loses, the pundits will drop him and look for another greatest P4P fighter of the day, just as they did with Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr., Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson and Oscar De La Hoya. We must hold off on judging any fighter until his career is over. Only then can we identify when Hopkins, Mayweather - or anyone - was at their peak and who really was the better man. Certainly, at this moment, we anticipate more activity from Mayweather than from Hopkins, but Mayweather should not be credited for what pundits believe he is capable of doing, just as Hopkins should not be dismissed for what pundits believe he is no longer capable of doing. Mayweather is still trying to live up to our expectations. He has excellent tools and many believe that he is capable of doing even more. So far, he has fulfilled our expectations, but he has to accomplish more to earn a spot in the all time Top 10. On the other hand, Hopkins has already met and exceeded our expectations. The media now expects little from Hopkins because he faltered a bit and he is in his forties. Still, what the media can't know is what drives Bernard Hopkins and what Hopkins' personal expectations might be. How much of the fire and pride that drove Bernard Hopkins to become one of the great middleweight champions remains? Ask Winky Wright and Kelly Pavlik how much the elderly Hopkins has left. ASnd recently Hopkins said he was going to fight as a heavyweight and challenge for the title in that division. Don't sell him short. We won't know with certainty until Hopkins hangs up his gloves for good. Only then will we know who really was the better fighter and if Mayweather was the best pound for pound fighter of his time, even while Hopkins, his P4P predecessor and 12 years older, was still winning titles fights.
Unless he experiences a severe downturn, Mayweather should come to the end his career deserving to be known as one of the best of his era just as Benny Leonard and Harry Greb were in their time. This is why I feel that it is imperative to rank champions on the results of their entire career, rather than in the narrower span of time when they were at their peak. I reluctantly made a decision to include active fighters simply to have a comprehensive grouping and a ranking for every decade through the 1990s. Once the 1990s champions have all retired, we can begin to make sense out of the 1990s. Right now, we have incomplete information and the results for active fighters can change dramatically. Other examples of veterans continuing their ring career a an old age are Virgil Hill and especially Evander Holyfield, who came out of retirement late in 2006 just before this book hit the shelves. Holyfield, at age 44 came back in 2006 and he won a few fights and got a shot at one of the heavyweight titles. Holyfield lost but he vowed to keep going. When we went to press, Holyfield was ranked 25th all time with a Career Quality score of 78.56. Since the book's release, Holyfield's several tune up fight wins slightly improved his CQ, but not enough to move past Antonio Cervantes on my all time list. Holyfield must accomplish more in big fights if he is to move up, but his loss to WBO heavyweight champion Sultan Ibragimov, in October, 2007, reinforces the fact that Holyfield may no longer be capable of winning major fights. His last title bout victory was a decade ago. Holyfield believes he can still be a champion and it appears he will get another chance. Stranger things have happened and the book on Evander Holyfield is still open, so have to wait and see what becomes of him. Let's get back to Benny Leonard. As recently as 1979, Leonard ranked number 86 all time; which means he was a top 100 champion for the first hundred years of modern boxing history. While only 85 fighters in one hundred years had better career results than Benny Leonard, in the ensuing twenty years (1980-2000), another fifty-two champions (some still active) emerged and fought their way past Benny Leonard, which dropped Leonard down to his current position at number 139. In contrast, there are champions from boxing's early days who, unlike Leonard, remain in the upper echelon. I have Joe Gans, Abe Attell and Tommy Ryan in my top 30 champions of all time and all of them fought and were champions even before Leonard began his career in 1911, which shows that my system has no bias against champions of long ago. Career performance is all that matters.
In the 1920-1929 decade, my system ranks Harry Greb # 2 among 47 champions of that decade. When we add Greb and his 46 contemporaries to the 72 champions from 1880-1919, the overall rankings to that point in history change because the number of champions increased by 65% and some of these champions were, like Greb, very productive fighters. With the addition of Greb and his generation, Leonard falls from number 14 (1880-1919) to number 25 (1880-1929). Greb, who ranked number 2 in his decade (1920-1929), ranks number five of 119 champions from 1880-1929, but there are historians that continue to rank Greb and Leonard in the all time Top 5 or 10. Today boxing historians have significantly more information to work with than their counterparts had in Benny Leonard's day. The key for all of us that rank boxers is to use all the information but not rely so heavily on what writers of the past had to say.
My top 25 list of champions from 1880-1929 Panama Al Brown Joe Gans Abe Attell Tommy Ryan Jack Britton Harry Greb Jimmy Barry Bob Fitzsimmons George Dixon Johnny Kilbane Mickey Walker Tommy Burns Johnny Dundee Stanley Ketchel Frankie Genaro, John L. Sullivan Jimmy Wilde Jack Johnson Tod Morgan Kid Chocolate Pancho Villa Jack Dempsey Philadelphia Jack O'Brien Tommy Loughran Benny Leonard
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